Sunday, 5 July 2015

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Tuesday, 13 May 2014

Every Day

Recap by Cethan Leahy.

In October 2013, the book club choice was Every Day by David Levithan. This is what was discussed at the Library Bar.

General Thoughts

• The similarity of the premise of Every Day to Quantum Leap was mentioned, which led to discussion on the internal rules of the conceit and if they held up to scrutiny. It was generally felt it was fine that it was left mostly unexplained although the transporting to bodies within driving distance was a bit convenient.

• If A swaps bodies constantly, does A have a gender? It was decided that A doesn’t have one necessarily but A did scan as a male.

• Was A weirdly passive aggressive towards Rhiannon? Shades of “Nice Guy” entitlement.

• Mention of the suicidal girl as a particularly strong chapter.

• There is a sequel and people agreed that they were looking forward to it.

Wednesday, 7 May 2014

Anna and the French Kiss

We looked at Stephanie Perkins's Anna and the French Kiss and had thoughts! Namely:

  • Oh, the title, why the title? Bookseller types noted it put some people off.
  • We loved the setting - Paris! - and the boarding school.
  • Though perhaps the kids had too much freedom - even though they were Americans in crazy liberal drinking-at-18 Europe, would they have been allowed quite so much? Did it feel more like she wanted to write a college novel?
  • Was St-Clair a bit too grumpy considering he has a girlfriend? Was Anna's reaction to Bridge a bit OTT and unsympathetic?
  • Like candy. Good candy. We basically liked it. 

Monday, 30 September 2013

Flowers in the Attic.

So, these are my thoughts on the Flowers in the Attic meeting for book club, which was my pick because I read for the first time in sixth class, at the age of eleven, and had all the fond memories. We at book club discussed the problematic text and regaled eavesdroppers with talk of perfectly blonde incest and overwritten descriptions of things. It was a while ago, so instead of doing a point by point recap of our wonderful donllanganging, I have decided to make a list.

1. Corrine. Daft as a very expensive brush, shallow as a very expensive puddle.More beautiful than either of those things. Ultimately too selfish to not plot to murder her children with donuts. Although, if I had to go, I wouldn't be averse to donut-poisoning. As opposed to, like, a brutal stabbing. Assassins take note.
2. Steamer trunks full of old tat.
3. Cathy's hair. Pride of her father, glory of her head. Spite and tar could not erase it's corn-silk waterfallish splendor.
4. Sexy young Bart with his wealth and moustache. He's a lawyer. Hubba-hubba. Amirite? I would have kissed him too.
5.The bit when the Grandmother gave them a real flower for their fake garden. Because it told you she had a heart. Just one that thoroughly disapproved of having children by one's half-uncle.
6. This sentence: "On the attic walls, in our beautiful garden of paper flowers, we pasted up the epileptic snail beside the fierce and menacing worm."
7. Christopher Dollenganger, according to Cathy. And Corrine. And everyone. He was like Todd out of sweet-valley high, only better. His potent masculinity too soon sniffed out. I want a candle in the wind written specially for him that begins "Goodbye, Sexy Dad..."
8. The Swan bed. Where all the fun sins happen.
9. When Cathy got the sleep-shift off Bart.
10. Mickey the mouse, and basically everything Cory did. He was the Manic Pixie Dream twin of the book, with his banjo playing and his quirky death. Rest in peace, Good Twin.

Lists are great, aren't they? From shopping to sex-brothers, everything can go on one. And get ticked off. Speaking of ticked off, some people did not enjoy the glorious child-abusey romp what VC Andrews done wrote. Here is a list for them.

1. Corrine. she swans about, marrying her half-uncle like it ain't no thing and THEN she lands handsome Bart. He was, like EIGHT YEARS YOUNGER THAN HER you guys. It's basically child-abuse. Oh, wait...
2. Christopher and Cathy. The YA couple no-one ever shipped.
3. Carrie. Shrill much?
4. Christopher. And his organ. And his talk about his organ. And it being okay because he wants to be a doctor. Doctors do not get to be doctors by staring at their sisters in the jacks. That is not how life works.
5. Rape. And feelings of guilt/ complicitness in said rape thereafter. Poor Cathy.
6. The bit where they test the donuts on Mickey. Oh God.
7. Christopher Dollanganger Snr. according to common sense.  "Come greet me with kisses, if you love me!" 
8. I really feel that we should have gotten to see the Grandmother flog Corrine, instead of reading about it second hand. It would have been like Clash of the Titans only satisfying.
9. The phrase: "a fresh virgin."
10. The blood drinking. Although, maybe that could be a marketing thing now, like with a sexy cover like twilighty-Wuthering Heights? The tagline could be "And you thought Bella and Edward were forbidden.."
I may have been wrong about the lack of Chris/ Cathy shipping.....

Thursday, 29 August 2013

Recap of Code Name Verity and The Book thief

The theme for the March Grown-up-Read YA Book club was WWII books. We looked at Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein and The Book thief by Markus Zusak.

It was agreed that whilst the two books were set in World War II they had very different themes. Code Name Verity is the story of a friendship between two young English women who are enlisted into the RAF during WWII. One is a spy who is captured by the Germans and the other is her pilot. The Book Thief is set in Germany and is narrated by Death whilst It follows a young girl who steals books.

The thoughts were:

On Code Name Verity
  • The narrator's voice was out of sync with the time period and most felt that some of the dialogue was not in keeping with 1940s England.
  • Some readers struggled with the first part as Verity was almost blasé about her experience and it was difficult to empathise with her. However when readers came to the second part of the novel her attitude made more sense.
  • Some readers thought the plot was clever with some good twists and turns and there were some unexpected elements in the book.
  • Issues of class and gender came up in that female pilots and spies are rarely featured in WWII stories. Also it was noted that wartime Britain brought together two women of differing classes.
  • There was speculation that the friendship between Verity and Kittyhawk was more than platonic.
  • Overall there were mixed reviews of the book.
On The Book Thief
  • This was the favourite of the two books due to its complexity and powerful story telling.
  • Whilst there were some very tragic parts it was generally agreed that there was good use of humour as well.
  • The group agreed that the narration was strong, that the reader connected with the characters immediately and that it was beautifully written.
  • Most liked the insight into what it was like for Germans during WWII. The group agreed that the novel highlighted the complexity of how Jews were treated by the Germans and the novel avoided the black and white treatment of the Jews during WWII.
  • The use of symbolism and colour in the novel was liked by some of the group.
  • The group loved the evolving friendship between Liesel and Max as well as her friendship with Rudy.
  • The discussion concluded on who Liesel married and settled with in her later years but it remained inconclusive as to who that he was.
  • Overall the group loved this book.

Saturday, 26 January 2013

Recap: I Capture The Castle

I Capture The Castle - Dodie Smith

Read as the second title in our Classic YA month (January 2013). The thoughts:

  • The important question: Simon vs Neil vs Stephen? I think Stephen generally had a lot of fans, although some people found him a bit too wimpish. Some disapproval of Simon for his inappropriate kissing. Some disapproval for Cassandra for her callousness towards Rose.
  • Narrative device of the diary - did it work for people? Yes, generally, she is trying to be a writer and making it more writerish in places so it does make sense. Really liked the closing lines. General affection towards Cassandra.
  • Cassandra's father - genius or lunatic? Good father? Interesting character to read about but not necessarily one you'd want to know in real life.
  • Some difficulty picturing the castle layout and wishing it had come with a map.
  • Generally this was liked; some of us had read it before, others wished they'd read it as a teenager.
  • Most of us hadn't read the other work Smith is famous for - The Hundred and One Dalmatians - although dogs do feature here, too. Wouldn't necessarily connect the two, though.

Recap: Forever

Forever - Judy Blume

We read this as part of our YA Classics month (January 2013). Some thoughts:
  • Is it a "sex manual", as some critics have suggested, or an actual story? Generally agreed that it seemed to be the former. We discussed 'Ralph' - two points that came up emerged were that it was a way of being explicit without being explicit and also that there was no equivalent for Katherine's ladyparts. Also that Katherine doesn't seem overly concerned about Michael's revelation that he'd had VD - this might be a product of it being very 1970s, when (as the foreword in many editions notes) pregnancy was the sole focus of 'safe sex', rather than disease.
  • We felt it was for younger readers - young teens - rather than older teens, and again there was the suggestion that Katherine and Michael might have been 'aged up' to make the book more acceptable. They seemed young for eighteen, closer to fifteen/sixteen.
  • We wanted more on Artie and to find out how that resolved itself. Also noted that Erica makes an advance on a boy and this is what happens, whereas Katherine is pursued rather than a pursuer.
  • Still one of the most explicit YA books out there re: sex - other titles mentioned included Melvin Burgess's Doing It, Meg Cabot's Ready or Not, William Nicholson's Rich and Mad, Daria Snadowsky's Anatomy of a Boyfriend, and Keith Gray (ed) Losing It.
  • Other Judy Blume books we would recommend? (For some people this was their first Judy Blume and they weren't mad about it. For those of us that had read her other books, this didn't seem to be a favourite.) Summer Sisters and Tiger Eyes.